“You quickly learn that distractions are not just phone calls and emails,” explains renowned American Buddhist nun Pema Chödrön in an interview with Bill Moyers. “Our own mind and our longings, our cravings and our fantasies are also major distractions.” Chödrön says that spending time in solitude each day through meditation makes room for new experiences. “The first thing that happens is you climb the walls because the detox is so intense. But gradually what begins to happen is that you sink so deeply into what life has been distracting you from.” Chödrön (born Deirdre Blomfield-Brown in New York), first discovered Tibetan Buddhism in 1972. Through her teachings and writings on meditation, she has helped make Buddhism accessible to a broad Western audience. Her books include The Wisdom of No Escape, Start Where You Are and When Things Fall Apart. You can learn much more about her by visiting PemaChodronFoundation.org. You can also watch her Bill Moyers interview in full below. And to watch more clips of Oprah Winfrey’s recent interview with Pema visit Oprah.com.

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